The Wild Sage Society Podcast w/ Marcie Walker
The Wild Sage Society Podcast is where we explore the ideas and practices that help us live healthy, connected, and purpose-filled lives. Each week host Marcie Walker connects with healers, spiritual leaders, doctors and small business owners on topics such as human resilience, conscious leadership, and modern shamanism.
The Wild Sage Society Podcast w/ Marcie Walker
40-Adverse Childhood Experiences and Chronic Disease with Kenya Marie
Have you ever wondered how your childhood experiences and traumas could be impacting your health today? In an intriguing conversation with our guest, Kenya Marie, a holistic health coach from Beyond the Physical, we navigate the profound impact of adverse childhood experiences on our physical health. Kenya opens up about her own traumatic experiences and anxiety struggles, demonstrating how her healing journey has shaped her unique approach to wellness.
Venture with us as we dive into the complexity of holistic health and healing trauma. Kenya discusses her work in creating a health program specifically designed for women in pursuit of their physical health goals. She underlines the importance of addressing emotional health, managing stress, and healing continuing issues such as PCOS. We also shed light on the role of nutrition and stress management in complete wellbeing, challenging the oversimplified idea of eating healthy and working out.
Lastly, we tackle the intricate issues of eating disorders, trauma recovery, and stereotypes prevalent in the fitness industry. Kenya shares her recovery journey bolstered by hypnotherapy, the potency of soul retrieval, and the significance of integration coaching. We assert that expertise should always supersede appearance in the fitness industry and emphasize the importance of leading a healthy lifestyle to be an effective coach. This enlightening and deeply personal episode is sure to offer fresh perspectives and valuable insights on holistic health. Don't miss out!
Connect with Kenya:
https://www.instagram.com/iamkenyamarie_/
https://www.beyondthephysical.club/
Hi! I'm Marcie Walker. I became a Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist and Shamanic Practitioner on a mission to help people, who were holding on by a thread, drowning in guilt and shame, and punishing themselves with the kind of self-talk they'd never say to friends.
I believe that our inner life affects our outer life, and it is my passion to help people transform their inner selves, so they can achieve their full potential and create a life of purpose, fulfillment, and positive influence. I am committed to creating a safe and supportive space for my clients to explore their inner world, heal past traumas, and create a life that aligns with their true self.
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Welcome back to the Wild Sage Society podcast. I'm your host, Marcie Walker. Today, my guest and I will be talking about a topic that's near and dear to my heart. It's adverse childhood experiences. This term was coined by doctors from Kaiser Permanente when they started to link chronic diseases that they were seeing in our patients to traumatic events that happened in their lives. Today, I invited in a good friend and holistic health coach, Kenya Wernett, from Beyond the Physical, to come in today and share her experience and share how she helps clients achieve health beyond the physical. Join us as we tune in.
Paddybandwagon Productions:This is the Wild Sage Society podcast, where we explore the ideas and practices that help us live healthy, connected and purpose filled lives. Each week, our host, Marcie Walker, connects with healers, spiritual leaders, doctors and small business owners on topics such as human resilience, conscious leadership and modern shamanism. Here is your host, marcy Walker.
Marcie Walker:Hi, Kenya, welcome. It's so amazing to have you here today. Before we dive into everything that makes you the incredible soul that you are, I just wanted to let you know that you are the inspiration for one of my passion projects, and just hearing about your story at the Dharma Coaching Institute and really had me think about what my purpose is and how I want to show up. And so one of the things that the Wild Sage Society does is our passion project is called the Embodied Wellness Collective, and so 20% of all of our proceeds for sales and everything goes to the collective to make equitable healthcare available to everybody by doing energy healing clinics, and so our main focus are people who are survivors of adverse childhood experiences. So thank you for your inspiration and your passion behind that.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Wow, yeah, thank you for having me. That's incredible. I love that you're doing that. That's amazing.
Marcie Walker:Yeah, I mean it sounds so weird, but just your story and the presentation that you shared at the Mastermind last October just really hit home and really resonated for me. So let's just dive in into how you help your community and your mission about helping others achieve health beyond the physical.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Yeah, oh my gosh. Well, first and foremost, thanks for having me. I'm really excited. I think that sharing our story is the best way that we can help humanity heal. So I'm a pretty open book and I have lived, I feel, like a million lifetimes, and so I try to tell my story as much as I can, even if it's painful to relive sometimes. I know even if it helps one person, that's all that matters. So I'm excited to be here, ready for you to hit me with all your questions.
Marcie Walker:I don't have anything prepared to tell you the truth, I just go right off the cuff. So let's, since I've already hit up your story, will you want to dive right in there? Sure.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Yeah, I mean, there's so many stories I've shared, but I can't even remember the exact one that I shared at the DCI event, but it's probably in regards to my anxiety and what led me into online coaching. Yeah, so you know, like many people, I grew up with a lot of chaos in the home, a lot of different adverse childhood experiences that I know we'll get into in a little bit, and I leaned on perfectionism and kind of keeping my problems to myself growing up as a kid, and what that did is it generated a lot of internal angst, and I lived my entire life I mean verse 20, I don't know four years of life incredibly anxious, and I would have panic attacks, probably once a week. I would hyperventilate, and sometimes I would hyperventilate so much that oxygen would stop going to my brain and so I would pass out. And in 2019, I believe, I was having a ridiculously dumb argument with my ex and I went into my usual of freaking out, having anxiety, heart starts beating really fast. This is all things that I was used to, but this time I had a hyperventilated I pass. I was starting to pass out and I fell and my ex grabbed my head right before it hit the corner of the dining room table and I called my mommy immediately after and she it's typically really loving and typically you know it's okay, sweetie, you'll get over it.
Coach Kenya Wernett:But this time she wasn't. She kind of laid it into me and was like you're going to have a heart attack before you're 30. So you need to figure this shit out. And I was like what? And she's like you need to figure your anxiety out, because this is ridiculous. You're hyperventilating all the time. And so that is what first opened my eyes to the fact that what she was saying was was real and the rate I was going. I wouldn't be surprised if I were to experience something like a heart attack or something worse because I had such uncontrolled anxiety. And so at the time, the only thing that was helping me feel a little bit better was going into the gym. Anytime I was in the gym, I kind of shut off and I stopped thinking and was able to feel, and that was the beginning of my process of soft feeling really.
Marcie Walker:Yeah, I can totally relate to the anxiety disorder and for me there was an address, sexual trauma that never really was healed from and it took me a long time for that to surface and to be able to heal. I know that you have some.
Coach Kenya Wernett:I do. I have so many things. Yeah, I definitely, I'd say, my first big trauma my parents. They were never married. They tried to work it out but it just didn't work out and so I never grew up with my father and for the longest time I thought that that didn't impact me, unlike my sister who was with him for the first two years of life. I never had him around, so I really did not think that his absence impacted me at all, and that's definitely not the case. But that was the first. I guess around two, three is when I just kind of thought okay, this is normal, it's normal to feel the way that I'm feeling.
Coach Kenya Wernett:By six I was molested by a neighbor, a female neighbor, who was in her late teens, and again, it was one of those things where I felt like this just happens to people. I didn't share it with anybody. I knew it felt wrong but I didn't do anything about it. I just kind of stored it in my body. As the years went on, more trauma within the household was happening all around, and when I was 21 or so I was raped while I was unconscious. So there's just all these things. But because of the experiences I had my first five years I learned that you just kind of keep it to yourself and it's probably happening to other people, so who cares? That was my mindset was like it doesn't matter, it's not impacting me, just like burying it down, and little do did I know that my body was just keeping the score of all of it, and that's why my anxiety attacks were progressively getting worse as the years went on, because my body just could not handle all of the trauma that it had experienced.
Marcie Walker:Girl. That hits home and it's fascinating to me and why I'm so passionate about adverse childhood experiences is that by the time we're seven years old, we already know what we deserve in life. And that's devastating to me because the adverse childhood experiences were the term was originally coined by Kaiser Permanente and their doctors were starting to see a correlation between traumatic events that were happening from zero to 18 in their patient's lives and their chronic health issues, illnesses, disease, cancer, obesity, eating disorders, all the things you know and that's mind blowing to me and I think that you and I have a very, very similar passion on getting to the root of those.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Yeah, so I know you're obviously well versed with the ACE. For those that don't know that, adverse childhood experiences this was conducted in the mid 90s right between Kaiser Permanente and the CDC and they basically wanted to understand why there were so many people from completely different backgrounds, completely different life experiences, that were all experiencing early death, and so they tracked it down right and they were able to really divide these experiences into three major categories, which was abuse physical, emotional, sexual neglect. Emotional physical and like household dysfunction, so like substance abuse, mental illness, domestic violence, all these things. And it's this, this study like blows my mind because there was just such a strong association between these adverse childhood experiences and negative health outcomes as adults. So these adults that are experiencing things like you know, all of these chronic diseases, diabetes, obesity, types of cancer, mental health issues, anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress disorder right, they couldn't understand prior to the study, like what was the cause?
Coach Kenya Wernett:And so when they did it and they found that you know, I think it was two thirds of the participants had at least one adverse childhood experience and more than like one in five had three or more, and the more adverse to the more they scored on this test, the more likely they were to have. These health issues Like that just opened my mind to the fact that the issues and the diseases and the disorders that we are struggling with as adults really steps back to our childhood, and so we have to start there when it comes to healing, and so that's that's what we do in my program and you know, it's just, it's fascinating thing, it's like it's fascinating to me. Honestly, I could talk about it all day.
Marcie Walker:I love that because I'm super fascinated by it as well. You know, because it's I think they say it's 61% of people I mean that's, that's huge. And I don't think people realize that there's more long-term effects than just health and you know physical health and mental health that it affects. You know the early pregnancies, a higher risk of sexual abuse or expectation risks and homelessness. You know lack of education and all sorts of different things that there's a socio economic impact as well.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Yeah, and that's the thing too is and I think I talked about this a little bit at the DCI event I mean some of these, you know urban areas where these experiences are happening on a daily basis, and it's predominantly made of black and brown people. And then we wonder why it's those populations and I'm a part of that population you know why we have so much dysfunction and so much disease as adults. And it's because they're experiencing so many different adverse childhood experiences at such a young age and when it's not properly addressed, it's going to manifest as disease as adults. And so it's crucial that we're going into these impoverished areas and talking about this. I mean it's important that we're talking about this in every area and all schools, right, because when it's not handled at a young age, it's just going to get worse and worse and worse.
Coach Kenya Wernett:And in my case, I'm so fortunate that it was just anxiety that I was dealing with. I'm so, I think, gone every day that it didn't turn into a heart attack or, you know, one of the many things that it can, but it's it really stems from what's happening in that first. Yeah, seven years of life.
Marcie Walker:When we're in a hypnagogic state, right, and we're just picking up what the energy of whatever our caretaker is giving us, whether it's too much or not enough, and having a belief of like my seven years old, like if I rewind the tapes and go back to my seven year old self, it was like I didn't know, like I wouldn't have a cognitive thought that like, hey, I'm not worthy of this or I'm not deserving of this. But to have that manifest so many years later. And just recently I went to my mom's cabin up at Davis Lake it's like an hour away from Reno and it's off the grid and it was lovely to get away. The one thing that I realized is Sunday morning I got up and I made everybody breakfast and then I, like my mom was doing all the cooking and cleaning and so I wanted to take the burden off of her. So I started doing the dishes that I did and I was like, holy shit, no wonder I felt like I wasn't enough, and it's fascinating.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Yeah, and it's these little things too, these things that most people wouldn't think would impact us, but it does, because, like you said, we're sponges, right, we're sponges at that age and we're just picking every single thing up and that is going to generate a belief system that, oh, I'm not good enough, I'm not good enough to do the dishes, and you know. Then that belief system manifests into I'm not good enough for this job position, I'm not good enough as a wife, I'm not right, like it snowballs into all of these different things and we don't realize that it stems from that experience that you have of simply doing the dishes and it takes a lot of reprogramming and a lot of reflection. A lot of you know different practices that we do to get to that root and ultimately, that's the goal with all of our traumas. When it comes to healing all of our traumas, it's to get to like what happened in childhood, right, that is, that develop this belief system that you now carry in your 30s, 40s, 50s plus, right? Yeah, it's great, it's fascinating.
Marcie Walker:So how do you integrate this into your beyond the physical community? Because you're more. For me, you're a holistic healer. I'm gonna bar and say that even though you're a holistic health coach, like you're, you're helping people change lives on such a deep, deep, deep, deep level.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Thank you. So you know. So, beyond the physical, I started beyond the physical back in 2019, late 2019. And we are a holistic health program where women come to us because they have physical health goals that they are trying to achieve, mostly fat loss, lean muscle gain, right, that's why they come into the program and for the first year, that's pretty much all I focused on was like, okay, here's your diet, you know, here's your, your workouts, whatever. But over time I realized that it wasn't enough. Sure, they might lose some weight, sure, they might develop healthier habits, but if we wanted to heal some of these chronic issues PCOS, diabetes, like we need to go way deeper.
Coach Kenya Wernett:And my background's in psychology. So, prior to being a coach, I was a senior social worker, my master's in social work, I worked for the government for a few years and I noticed the same thing was happening with everybody my friends, my clients, the children I was working with in the foster homes. We all were the same, we all have these experiences and we all were kind of dealing with them in a way that was inevitably making us sick. And so I took that background, my psychology background, my social work background, into beyond the physical and I said hey guys, we're actually not just going to talk about, like, diet and nutrition and fitness. We're also going to talk about emotional health. We're going to talk about how to regulate our parasympathetic nervous system. We're going to talk about stress management.
Coach Kenya Wernett:And I started to see my clients' results were so much greater than just fat loss. We've helped I can't even I don't even know what this number, the exact number. Countless women with PCOS who were told that they can never get pregnant, get pregnant while they were in our program. Countless women who have had 15 plus years struggling with depression, anxiety, all of a sudden no longer having depression or anxious feelings, and so I was like, wait, there's something here, and I think we need to lean into this way more.
Coach Kenya Wernett:We can't just talk about this is how you lose fat, go to the gym and do XYZ Like. We need to talk about how to get our insides working healthy so that our outside also resembles that, and so that's. That was like how we transitioned into being a holistic program, and by holistic to what I mean by that? I know everyone has little different definitions. For me, it's just taking a whole person centered approach to wellness. Holistic is just a whole person centered approach. So we're not just talking about your physical health, we're also going to talk about your mental health, your emotional health, your spiritual health as well.
Marcie Walker:I love that you're addressing what, as a shaman, we call the luminescent energy field. It's just so important because people come to me and they're like, okay, well, you're a shaman and you're a hypnotherapist, I just want you to take everything away. But they have to be actively engaged in taking care of their physical bodies with food and how they. I mean what they put into their body, whether it's TV or food or drinks. It's so, so important in the healing process. So I love that there's a holistic program out there that addresses all of those things.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Yeah, and it's getting so popular now, which I love. I love that there are more fitness coaches talking about emotional health and, you know, talking about stress management, because it's crucial and if we want to help people be healthy, we can't neglect emotional, mental health. You will not be healthy by simply going to the gym. Right, we have to develop a relationship with ourselves that's so strong and so secure that our internal environment and our external environment shows that we're healthy. Right, because you can go to the gym all day long, but if your stress levels are up to here, you're going to still face a lot of issues. It's not going to work. It's not going to work, yeah.
Marcie Walker:The executives I coach. I would talk about burnout, and you know that the WHO, the World Health Organization, didn't consider burnout anything more than just like a syndrome. I think that that's devastating, just for the simple fact that it's burnout, or high cortisol levels are attached or linked to the seven leading causes of death, which there's a fine parallel with the traumatic, with adverse childhood experiences. So like why isn't our government digging a little bit deeper? Why aren't they looking at the things that we're putting into our mouth? Why do they support the endocrine disruptors that affect our hormones?
Coach Kenya Wernett:It's so important. It blows my mind too. I feel like the older I get and the more I really dive into this field, the more like angry I almost get that we weren't taught these things at a young age. Because we're taught especially. I grew up in Orange County, california. Very you get praised by like doing the most From a very young age. You get praised if you're working longer, if you're staying after school and studying longer, like this is good, right, it means you're successful is how it felt growing up.
Coach Kenya Wernett:The problem is that when we are living in that state, when our cortisol is through the roof, all we're doing is making all of the other parts of our body harder to do their jobs. So one of the things that I explained in our program is and I work with business executives lawyers, paralegals, doctors these are the types of women that business owners, these are the women that I work with. So stay at home moms, women just with very high stressful lives. Naturally, I explained to them when we are stressed out, when we have uncontrolled stress, all of the other systems aren't working properly. Back in the day, this service, if we were being chased by a panther or something, we needed that part of our brain to activate that fight or flight we needed to activate so that we could literally stay alive. The problem is that nowadays, that same little trigger that's going off in our brain, that's releasing all of these stress hormones, isn't happening because we're being chased by a wild animal. It's happening when we get cut off on the freeway or when we have a fight with our partner or when our boss tells us we have a deadline that we weren't expecting right. We're allowing ourselves to get so stressed out and that same fight or flight is happening. But the problem is, when that's happening, our system shut down. So back in the day, when we're running from an animal, that's fine.
Coach Kenya Wernett:If our digestive system isn't working, I don't care if my body doesn't know how to digest food, I care about living. But now, when we're living with this chronic stress, our systems are shutting down, which means our digestive system isn't working properly, our immune system isn't working properly, our reproductive system isn't working properly. All of these systems are shutting down because our mind believes that it is under literally a life or death situation. So I have clients every day who have these incredibly stressful jobs and they come to me and they're like Kenya. I don't understand why I'm not losing weight. I'm going to the gym, I'm eating healthy, I'm following my male plans. What's going on? Well, how's your stress? All my stress is through the roof. I have a crazy job. My husband's that. All the kids are this right, they go on and on.
Coach Kenya Wernett:I'm saying well, your systems aren't working properly, so it doesn't matter that you're eating, right, your digestive system isn't working the way it's supposed to. You're wondering why you're always sick. Well, your immune system isn't working properly, which is why it's challenging for you to get to your goal weight. You have PCOS, you're struggling with your reproductive well, that's because right, and so it's like a domino effect and I think having people really understand that can make all the difference and will give us a little bit of a reality check. That like, actually, we can't just say we know stress is bad. We really need to do something about managing our stress because your systems aren't going to work properly, which is why, like we said at the beginning, it leads to things like coronary heart disease or obesity or all these other issues that we see in the world. A lot of it stems from just high stress, uncontrolled high stress.
Marcie Walker:Yes, stamp that message and it needs to be out there and it needs like. Everything needs to change. The whole world needs to change. I think it's super frustrating that doctors typically don't take any sort of nutrition classes.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Oh, my goodness, marcy, I have a story for you and it's so. I was training, I was training one of my clients. She's a doctor, her husband's also a doctor, her husband's a surgeon. And I'm training her and she looks at me mid session and she goes can you have a confession? I'm like what she goes? I feel so bad. I'm a doctor. I went to school for eight years. She said we took one course on nutrition.
Coach Kenya Wernett:She says every single day, patients come into my office and I'm like I'm going to take this that have all of the things obesity, all of the things. And she says I tell them that they need to exercise and they need to eat well. And she looks at me. She goes I don't even know what that means. I just tell them that because that's what we were taught.
Coach Kenya Wernett:And you could just see almost like this guilt or this embarrassment that she had and she's like I feel like we should have learned what you're teaching me in your program, in our doctorate programs. And so patients are coming to us they're not coming to a random health coach or a fitness trainer If they have obesity or if they have heart issues. They're coming to me and all I can tell them is oh, eat well. And she goes. I don't even know what that means and ever since you told me that I'm like, oh gosh, the witch is why I specifically like to work with those that are in helping professions teachers, doctors. If you're helping other people get healthy, like that's who I want to work with, Because you have a much bigger platform than I do.
Marcie Walker:Yeah, and being able to balance those body, brain, chemicals with your daily habits and your routines and all the things is so important and it's often overlooked and you know, and it's a different topic, but like being our own health advocate right now is incredibly important and doing the research and the information gathering on whatever the things are. I have a client that she's in the same boat that most of your clients are. She is having a hard time gaining or losing weight and she keeps going back to her doctor because he's on her insurance program and he's like he sat her down and he's like nothing's wrong with you. Here's a prescription of fentanyl. And she's like it doesn't work.
Marcie Walker:And so she's like I want lab work. I and he was like no, you're fine. And she had to beg for a lab work and when she finally did, the liver values were out. They were not normal, they were high. And so she's like her doctor was like, oh, you have to go get a test for hepatitis. And she's like I don't have any of the symptoms for hepatitis, I have the symptoms for lupus.
Marcie Walker:And it's like she really had to push and he went around and what I feel is archaic medicine at this point and wasn't open to sending her to go get her gut looked at or looking at her digestion or what could be going on with that and it makes me sad.
Coach Kenya Wernett:It's, it's, it's terrible, it's, it is really sad. And you know I'm I'm not hear my dog whining in the back. I'm in no way we're pro-dog. Yeah, he's like just sitting here wanting to play. I'm like I'm in no way anti-western medicine.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Right there if I, if I break my leg like I want to go see a Western doctor, right, if I agree, these things are important. However, there is a place for functional holistic medicine, and when I started seeing my functional holistic doctor, that is when I full heartedly believe, is when I started to truly heal. Right, and I wish that Western medicine talked about anxiety, stress, eating leafy greens and why? Right? I wish that these were things that we were taught from a very young age. Energetics, the frequency that you're living in, you know. I wish that these were things that were just common knowledge. And I 100% agree with you we have to be advocates for our own health and we sometimes that includes like going alternative routes and seeing and hearing what other people have to say, and that's that's how I started to heal was was getting this input from you know, non-western doctors really.
Marcie Walker:For sure. So one of the you know like as someone who struggled with one of the symptoms for adverse childhood experiences with eating disorders, let's talk about those and how detrimental those are for adulthood later on.
Coach Kenya Wernett:So, when it comes to eating disorders, everyone's different. Everyone is different and everyone has different reasons for getting to a place where they feel like they need to manipulate their food intake. The most common is this sense of control. When we experience a lot of adverse childhood experiences, we feel like we completely have lost control of our life. I know for me, especially with my sexual trauma, there are a long period of my life where I genuinely believed in my heart that I didn't have a say. I let men do whatever they wanted to me, because I felt like I genuinely didn't have any control. Right, and so if we were to use that example, when you feel like you have no control over your sexual partners, then you start looking for other things that you can control.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Food is a very easy and quick route to go. I can't control who you know takes advantage of me or who sleeps with me, but I can control what I put in my mouth, and so I'm going to completely dissociate from the experience that I had, and which is why it's very difficult for people that continue to struggle with eating disorders to really relive some of those experiences because they're so dissociated from it. No, my eating disorder has nothing to do with what happened to me at three years old, right Like it's because I wanted to look lean when I was a teenager. Like this is.
Coach Kenya Wernett:These are the things that I hear from my clients all the time Go no, let's go a little bit further back. Let's go a little bit further back. Why do you feel the need to control your food? What emotional regulation or like satisfaction are you getting from controlling your food? You know, and so there's a that's like a whole week. That's like a can of worms, really, when it talks about eating disorder. But and again, there's so many different things to body image issues, self worth issues, but control seems to be at least in my experience with the clients that I've worked with and it's the sense of like I don't know what's going on around me. I do know what I can control, in this case, so like I'm going to purge or binge or hoard or whatever it might be.
Marcie Walker:I resonate with that because there was an element of control with it. I also, you know, would restrict food and incoming into my mouth and but there was, there was several years that I would binge and purge and I originally thought that that's how I dealt with my anxiety disorder and mostly because serotonin is in most of your serotonin comes from your belly, so then when I would throw up then I would release the cellar serotonin. So that's how I managed it. And then it wasn't until I went through hypnotherapy school and did oh, we did a hypnoburf and we went back to our birthing experience. And so then the next, like later that afternoon, I called my mom but my experience was like I'm laying on the couch at my hypnotherapy mentors house because we did all of our training there. She had this big ginoma beautiful house, so everybody's all on the floor scattered all over. We're doing this hypnoburthing.
Marcie Walker:I have this clock that comes to my mind and it's a digital clock and it says 430. And the feeling that I got in my body was anxious and I felt kind of like the rabbit from Alice and wonderland I'm late, I'm late, I'm late for a very important date, right? So I like pop up at 430, and I realized where I'm at and I'm like what the actual fuck was that?
Paddybandwagon Productions:So I'm like okay.
Marcie Walker:so I didn't get anything about like coming out of the womb or any of that. But I called my mom and I was like, okay, what significance of 430 is? You know what does that mean around my birth? And so she's like, well, I was kind of induced around, you know 3, 330 or whatever. And then you know I guess 430, it just didn't take you very long to come out and whatever.
Marcie Walker:And I was like, okay, and she's like that, every time I fed you for three days straight you would just throw up. And I'm like what do you mean? She's like I feed you and you throw up. I feed you and I throw up. And I was like, well, you, she's like we did that for three days and then at the end of three days you threw up this big blob and it was about 430. And I was like, oh, that's interesting, because that's when I get that big rush of a panic attack is about 430. So I started putting that together and I asked at that point I was like, hey, did that? When did the doctors finally release you? They're like, oh, we released, they released you or us right after you were born. And it was like so when I find when they finally threw something up, I was at home. She was like, yeah, but it's interesting how birth trauma is so prevalent.
Coach Kenya Wernett:It's so interesting when we, when we dive into these things right, we can't because the thing is in, the harsh reality is like there isn't really an explanation for everything, and especially if we don't want to go into the route that you know you and I will go and we'll think about our first story and things like this. But for most people like they don't have you know, there's not one thing that happened, and so they end up developing this belief system that they're just for ever going to live with this problem because they can't find the route. But the truth is is that if we just keep digging, keep digging, finding alternative, you know ways of exploring who we were, even before we physically came into this body. Like what did our soul experience? And past lives? Right, it correlates into the struggles that we face now. So it's so interesting when we, like, really dive in.
Marcie Walker:I'm so grateful that you brought that up because now, as a shamanic practitioner, what I notice is I do what's called soul retrieval and soul integration coaching. So in most cases we go. The shamans believe that part of your soul fractures off whenever there's trauma. So I work with clients and I go retrieve that part of the soul and then we reintegrate it into their one of the chakras, that whatever one that they feel that it needs to go into, and it's profound the effect that it has, and it doesn't. I mean it doesn't make any logical sense, but it does, yeah.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Yeah, it's so true and that's. You said it perfectly. It doesn't make logical sense, right? It doesn't make logical sense, which is why so many people will ignore it or avoid it or like pass it off as nothing. But when I, when I started to explore you know, she's just so many different, so many different things specifically, human design for me was like what opened my eyes to. Oh my gosh, like it felt so validating, it felt so true and like it made it made sense, even though logically it didn't, it made sense, like in my body. I was like, wow, this all makes sense, the way why I react this way, or why I struggle with these things, or why I have this belief system. It all makes sense when I understand, like, what my soul's progression is like and how it's been. It's just fascinating stuff. Like I wish that this was like what I learned in high school, instead of like statistics.
Marcie Walker:I agree, and have you explored Jean Keys? No, what's up? Oh my gosh, jean Keys is like human design on steroids and it actually gives you like your genetic coding and it's mind-blowingly awesome.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Wow, wow, yeah, no need to look into that I wanted to buy prior episodes with Sharon Spahn.
Marcie Walker:She talks about human design in Jean Keys, but it's incredible. Yeah, I'll message you some information about it. Yeah, let me know.
Coach Kenya Wernett:That sounds good. I love that. It's interesting.
Marcie Walker:Yeah, well, so how do people find you and how do people work with you, and all of that.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Yeah, so mostly through Instagram my Instagram handles I am Kenya Marie underscore, but also you can check us out on our website. Beyond the physical doc club, we've helped, I think at this point, over 600 women, I believe, or 590 women or so and it is so much more than just a physical transformation. Really is. I tell people they come into the program because they want to lose weight or they want to get their summer body, and then we, once they're in the program, we, like ninja, trick them and we're like we're going to actually make you fall in love with yourself. We're going to we're going to ninja trick you into regulating your nervous system and it's a byproduct I'll also lose fat. That's the way that I like to sell it, because, at the end of the day, if we want to be healthy, we need to make sure that we're healthy internally and then it'll show externally.
Marcie Walker:Before you go, I have one more question. So yesterday on Instagram I saw a local trainer here and she is not, and she made a post that she doesn't know if she's going to be personal training anymore, because she had a sour experience at a gym, because her body type doesn't look like a typical trainer. What advice would you have for trainers that don't look like typical trainers?
Coach Kenya Wernett:Yes, I know exactly the feeling that she's going through. Oh man. Well, first and foremost, the way that we look doesn't indicate our expertise as a trainer. I've hired trainers who don't look like your standard trainer and they are phenomenal coaches. What I will say is, as a trainer, as a coach, it is important that we are healthy and we have to lead by example. It doesn't mean you need to look a certain way. It means we need to live a certain way.
Coach Kenya Wernett:So my advice to her, or anyone else, is to make sure that you are doing the things that allow you to be a healthy human, and then you can teach other people how they can do those things so that they can be healthy humans.
Coach Kenya Wernett:It's one of the biggest things we teach in our program. If you want to be a healthy person, you need to do what healthy people are doing. If you want to be a wealthy person, you need to do what wealthy people are doing, and so it's unfortunate that that's kind of I've seen it too, and it's unfortunate that trainers have that kind of like stigma that you have to look a certain way. I actually had a conversation with someone just yesterday and I told him I feel like I always need to be fit because I'm a fitness coach, but the reality is that I am doing the things that allow me to be healthy. I meditate daily, I connect with God daily, I journal, I walk, I eat well, I drink a lot of water. These are the things that allow me to be healthy, and how I look is just how I look, so it's beautiful.
Marcie Walker:Well, thank you for connecting with me today and my audience and I just adore you so much and I just have so much respect for you and love for you, and thank you.
Coach Kenya Wernett:Thank you for having me. It was incredible. I'm excited to see you continue to just blossom and you're like. You walk into a room and you're like a light. Thank you, yes.